Journal of Other Forum Analysis

[Propagandhim]

im just kidding, i dont know if he's fat.  i just wanted to do that joke.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/life-is-strange-double-exposure-spoiler-thread.1009626/page-3#post-130465629

User banned (1 month): trolling

Man, this discourse is making me want to scream. This whole ship is hanging off the franchise like a boat anchor. LiS wasn't even the best game in the series and Max and Chloe aren't even the best characters. It's preventing what is one of the most well executed "interactive drama" series from really spreading its wings and exploring awesome places. Double Exposure is EXCELLENT. And despite some weird bugs and visual glitches in the preview chapters it's the best the series has ever been. The performance capture is fantastic, the environments are cozy and beautiful, the mystery is way more interesting, the writing is better (both in terms of plot and dialogue), the interactivity is more polished. I just don't care about Max and Chloe anymore. And I say that as someone who has been arguing that Bae is a much better ending than Bay since the games first came out. But enough already. The fanbase is just becoming insufferable.

My genuine hope is that DeckNine goes full troll mode in the final chapter. Like Max gets a text from Chloe that just says, "I'm here." Then the camera pans up to show Chloe standing on the roadside. She starts running across the street to Max and then BAM. Flattened by an ice-cream truck. Then an 18 Wheeler. Then some coyotoes drag the corpse into the woods. Then Toto's Africa starts playing as the credits roll.

Imagine being such a humourless fuck you ban someone for that post.

[EaldNarche]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/election-analysis-changes-in-the-electoral-map-and-their-implications-for-current-future-elections.1016502/

i dont have time to read all that!

[DocWager]

im just kidding, i dont know if he's fat.  i just wanted to do that joke.

Very sus😒

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/detroit-muslim-leader-ejected-from-kamala-harris-rally-deepening-rift-between-democrats-and-arab-americans-detroit-metro-times-10-22-24.1016778/

[Potato]

VAPE NAYSH YALL

Did this loser stream with his gym equipment in the background to make people think he's some sort of "real man™"?

What a fucking cuck bitch.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-people-who-quit-dating-article.1015023/page-2#post-130459809

As anti social as it sounds once I found peace of mind for myself and by myself it became a huge turn off allowing somebody else to come in and change it.

Wouldn't ever say something absolute like "I'll never do it again" but it's a great life especially when you find fulfillment in ways that don't revolve around a relationship or having kids.

Yeah the whole concept of relationships just kinda feel like a scam the more things go on. We've gotten played for fools

Won't have a relationship with another human, but will have a parasocial relationship with an online steamer or Japanese cartoon character...

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/falcom-is-considering-using-ai-translation-with-their-games-first-pass-later-corrections-would-be-done-by-humans.1015821/

Accept the future, accept AI  

 

That is horrible, holy shit Falcom! 

And you guys celebrating shittines because you hate a mod in a forum. 

This is so stupid.

Explain why this is horrible? 

Using AI for a first pass and then using humans to make corrections is a perfect use of AI.

Translations are time consuming and expensive. Making the process more efficient to make things more accessible to more people is exactly how AI should be used. 

Using AI for live interpreting is fucked up and shouldn't happen, but there's a huge difference between translation and interpreting.

[Potato]

My guess is B-Lore has lupus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupus

Are you Dr. House MD?

[Jansen]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/detroit-muslim-leader-ejected-from-kamala-harris-rally-deepening-rift-between-democrats-and-arab-americans-detroit-metro-times-10-22-24.1016778/

The Arab's should vote for trump

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/falcom-is-considering-using-ai-translation-with-their-games-first-pass-later-corrections-would-be-done-by-humans.1015821/

Accept the future, accept AI  

 

That is horrible, holy shit Falcom! 

And you guys celebrating shittines because you hate a mod in a forum. 

This is so stupid.

Somebody get this bitch a whaaburger and some French cries

Dude, legit, what is your problem?

[DavidCroquet]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/falcom-is-considering-using-ai-translation-with-their-games-first-pass-later-corrections-would-be-done-by-humans.1015821/

Accept the future, accept AI  

 

That is horrible, holy shit Falcom! 

And you guys celebrating shittines because you hate a mod in a forum. 

This is so stupid.

Eh…my longest issue with Falcom is how fucking insanely long these games take to reach NA. If I can live with Archeozoic Big Hole, I can handle anything—the writing has never been Hemingway to begin with.

Falcom has more serious issues anyway…the collectathon/crafting crap they’ve been shoehorning in the games since Ys 7 sucks, and all these little minigames and special modes dilute the main appeal. Not to mention Duo Mode in Ys X is a total snoozefest. I might end up skipping a mainline Ys for the first time ever.

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/detroit-muslim-leader-ejected-from-kamala-harris-rally-deepening-rift-between-democrats-and-arab-americans-detroit-metro-times-10-22-24.1016778/

The Arab's should vote for trump

He's probably mailing the woman a MAGA hat signed with a sharpie and an invitation to one of his rallies as we speak. 

[Nintex]

If Bernie does a stream with Amouranth the dems might actually get some votes

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/falcom-is-considering-using-ai-translation-with-their-games-first-pass-later-corrections-would-be-done-by-humans.1015821/

Accept the future, accept AI  

 

That is horrible, holy shit Falcom! 

And you guys celebrating shittines because you hate a mod in a forum. 

This is so stupid.

Explain why this is horrible? 

Using AI for a first pass and then using humans to make corrections is a perfect use of AI.

Translations are time consuming and expensive. Making the process more efficient to make things more accessible to more people is exactly how AI should be used. 

Using AI for live interpreting is fucked up and shouldn't happen, but there's a huge difference between translation and interpreting.

Sigh. Is not that simple, specially when we are talking about entertainment and culture. I hate the term localization because sells translations as being sinful for being “literal” (is not supposed to be “that”) but muddies the waters when there is stuff that, for better or worse, you need to interpret to an extent (especially in language as Japanese where their ideograms and context give a lot of complexity).

I have explained this stuff before, and you guys really don’t seem to care so…  

I honestly kind of give up when people here started to call me Luddite.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/falcom-is-considering-using-ai-translation-with-their-games-first-pass-later-corrections-would-be-done-by-humans.1015821/

Accept the future, accept AI  

 

That is horrible, holy shit Falcom! 

And you guys celebrating shittines because you hate a mod in a forum. 

This is so stupid.

Eh…my longest issue with Falcom is how fucking insanely long these games take to reach NA. If I can live with Archeozoic Big Hole, I can handle anything—the writing has never been Hemingway to begin 

When people say this they think the translations cannot get worse and the writing more dry. (Spoilers: it can) 

The fact that the translations for their games have gotten worse rather than better should tell you many of their issues are management related, getting the impression we are getting Level5 type of mismanagement in a future.

[Uncle]

sorry man, the only thing that matters with translation is that it's good

if their translations get worse, then it turns out it was a bad decision

if their translations are already bad and stay bad, but the games come out faster due to shorter localization process, then it turns out it's a good decision

if things improve, there's literally nothing wrong with this

[DocWager]

AI sucks, full stop. It’s basically a real life Invasion Of The Body Snatchers. But I feel some here have been snatched already.

Edit: No, actually it’s good.

[Uncle]

"cars suck, they don't have the automatic braking and danger detection abilities of horses, and you lose all that personal touch of raising them, they're so impersonal and inhuman, I look down my nose at all these so-called auto-mobile users"

[Boredfrom]

In another hand:

As someone who works in localization, fixing AI is essentially rewriting the entire thing in my experience. It's a painful, time-consuming process with none of the surprises that can come with editing even a poorly-translated human script. And unfortunately, Falcom is hardly the only company looking into it.

It's so tiring heading these snide comments about translators changing tone and meaning from people getting themselves worked up over Google translated proof on Twitter, though. Especially ones that are worried about awkward wording. Sounds like they want to have their cake and to eat it too, except they don't actually know what they want because they don't know anything about translation.

Okay, I’m going to say this, is not for contradicting myself, but for clarity:

You, the localization community, are the reason why people distrust translations. You fuckers like to pretend that you don’t alter shit or rewrite shit, while constantly gaslighting everyone that the people that bitch about awful translations are chuds using google translate. We know for a fact that there has been really shitty agenda driven localizations but you want to pretend that is not the case and everyone is a moron for even alluding to that.

And you know what this provokes? That people think that is better that a machine does because is accurate (debatable, but a machine will not lie). “Fuck everything else, this are just words I’m right?”

[DocWager]

“Hey guys, you get video games faster” isn’t selling me on something. When 75% of the tech work force is non-existent in five years.

[Boredfrom]

"cars suck, they don't have the automatic braking and danger detection abilities of horses, and you lose all that personal touch of raising them, they're so impersonal and inhuman, I look down my nose at all these so-called auto-mobile users"

Keep on trucking uncle… the same exact argument and you don’t even bother to consider the other side anymore.

You used to be cool.

[Boredfrom]

sorry man, the only thing that matters with translation is that it's good

Too bad they usually sucks, isn’t it? 

Also is to bad the company already cares little for quality of their translations already.

[benji]

What's the other side if it's not "we should halt human advancement because I'm uncomfortable with change"?

[Nintex]

 

That is horrible, holy shit Falcom! 

And you guys celebrating shittines because you hate a mod in a forum. 

This is so stupid.

Explain why this is horrible? 

Using AI for a first pass and then using humans to make corrections is a perfect use of AI.

Translations are time consuming and expensive. Making the process more efficient to make things more accessible to more people is exactly how AI should be used. 

Using AI for live interpreting is fucked up and shouldn't happen, but there's a huge difference between translation and interpreting.

Sigh. Is not that simple, specially when we are talking about entertainment and culture. I hate the term localization because sells translations as being sinful for being “literal” (is not supposed to be “that”) but muddies the waters when there is stuff that, for better or worse, you need to interpret to an extent (especially in language as Japanese where their ideograms and context give a lot of complexity).

I have explained this stuff before, and you guys really don’t seem to care so…  

I honestly kind of give up when people here started to call me Luddite.

The type of AIs we have are basically based on the idea that "everything is a remix". So if you tell it to translate a JRPG it'll do it based on existing JRPG translations. The more of the "thing" you want it to do exists, the better the result. This is why AI models are great at roleplaying or fan fiction but terrible at guessing how many R's the word strawberry contains. 

In other words, with the right prompts it won't do it literally. Because there is so many Japanese translated stuff (and 75% of the AI community has weeb avatars) they are quite good at translating Japanese and adding that 'flavor' that a literal translation lacks. In fact it's more likely that you'll get a random "All your base are belong to us" thrown in with AI translations. 

[DocWager]

It’s gonna suck when we become the “Horses”.

[benji]

Sigh. Is not that simple, specially when we are talking about entertainment and culture. I hate the term localization because sells translations as being sinful for being “literal” (is not supposed to be “that”) but muddies the waters when there is stuff that, for better or worse, you need to interpret to an extent (especially in language as Japanese where their ideograms and context give a lot of complexity).

I have explained this stuff before, and you guys really don’t seem to care so…  

I honestly kind of give up when people here started to call me Luddite.

How is this even remotely a response or "explanation"? They literally said they're still using humans.

[Potato]

 

That is horrible, holy shit Falcom! 

And you guys celebrating shittines because you hate a mod in a forum. 

This is so stupid.

Explain why this is horrible? 

Using AI for a first pass and then using humans to make corrections is a perfect use of AI.

Translations are time consuming and expensive. Making the process more efficient to make things more accessible to more people is exactly how AI should be used. 

Using AI for live interpreting is fucked up and shouldn't happen, but there's a huge difference between translation and interpreting.

Sigh. Is not that simple, specially when we are talking about entertainment and culture. I hate the term localization because sells translations as being sinful for being “literal” (is not supposed to be “that”) but muddies the waters when there is stuff that, for better or worse, you need to interpret to an extent (especially in language as Japanese where their ideograms and context give a lot of complexity).

I have explained this stuff before, and you guys really don’t seem to care so…  

I honestly kind of give up when people here started to call me Luddite.

Sigh...

[benji]

“Hey guys, you get video games faster” isn’t selling me on something. When 75% of the tech work force is non-existent in five years.

It’s gonna suck when we become the “Horses”.

You posting these messages yourself? Or are you funding a long chain of people to deliver them to each of us?

[HaughtyFrank]

It’s gonna suck when we become the “Horses”.

Well I'm halfway there already since I'm hung like one*

 

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