The thread where everyone in it hates streamers sponsored by DavidCroquet

[BIONIC]

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wtf are any of those words

[HaughtyFrank]

[benji]

How can AI not even accurately identify Trek races?

[HeavenIsAPlaceOnEarth]

Turns out the children weren't our future after all.

To be fair, a whole couple generations of them were taught by the schools to be unable to read.

[filler]

Turns out the children weren't our future after all.

To be fair, a whole couple generations of them were taught by the schools to be unable to read.

not reading all that 

[Polident]

saw graffiti earlier saying “free johnny somali”

[Lonewulfeus]

Turns out the children weren't our future after all.

To be fair, a whole couple generations of them were taught by the schools to be unable to read.

He brought up the example of a child who comes to the word "horse" and says "pony" instead. His argument is that a child will still understand the meaning of the story because horse and pony are the same concept.
I pressed him on this. First of all, a pony isn't the same thing as a horse. Second, don't you want to make sure that when a child is learning to read, he understands that /p/ /o/ /n/ /y/ says "pony"? And different letters say "horse"?
He dismissed my question.
"The purpose is not to learn words," he said. "The purpose is to make sense."

This is dire, god damn.

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wtf are any of those words

Found the three-cue reader

[benji]

[Uncle]

He brought up the example of a child who comes to the word "horse" and says "pony" instead. His argument is that a child will still understand the meaning of the story because horse and pony are the same concept.
I pressed him on this. First of all, a pony isn't the same thing as a horse. Second, don't you want to make sure that when a child is learning to read, he understands that /p/ /o/ /n/ /y/ says "pony"? And different letters say "horse"?
He dismissed my question.
"The purpose is not to learn words," he said. "The purpose is to make sense."

This is dire, god damn.

this was the most dire bit to me

   

I have actually met people like this and been like...how could you possibly have gotten those words that wrong? you didn't even read them, you just assumed what it said?

and now I know

chatGPT-ass word prediction engine humans

[HaughtyFrank]

I didn't even know about this stuff until recently when I saw some clip of a kid getting scolded for trying to sound out the letters while reading.

[Polident]

[BIONIC]

[DavidCroquet]

Turns out the children weren't our future after all.

To be fair, a whole couple generations of them were taught by the schools to be unable to read.

I'd be curious to see a breakdown of how widely and when this techinique has been used. 

I'm familiar with "whole word" (which is bad enough) and phonics (aka DavidCroquet's Certified Actually-Teach-Kids-to-Read Gold Star Technique of the Forever), but haven't actually encountered three-cue'ing in the wild. It just seems so obviously terrible that even whole-word proponents would resist it.

But then again you never can trust a whole-worder...

[Potato]

Whatever happened to just teaching kids the sound the letters make and getting them to read them?

[benji]

Whatever happened to just teaching kids the sound the letters make and getting them to read them?

As the article and others articulate, one of the issues is that teachers prefer teaching the inferior methods because it's much easier for them. They're the dominant client of the education system.

[Alpacx]

[HaughtyFrank]

He's all in on president Vance